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January 25, 2009

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    NEWS AND INFORMATION FOR THE FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERING TEAM      
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 Issue No. 373  ISSN 1554-074X      http://www.etnews.org   1-25-2009  
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- News 
- Journal 
- Employment 
- Seminar Schedule 
- Comments & Acknowledgements 
 
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NEWS 
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Law/Ark: New ADA Accessibility Guidelines Adoption Still in Limbo
By Gary L. Cole AIA, Esq. 
The revised Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines 
(ADAAG), first released by the U.S. Access Board for public comment on 
July 23, 2004, were not, contrary to expectations, signed into law by 
President Bush prior to ...  
http://lawarkblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-ada-accessibility-
guidelines.html 
 
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Drunk Broker Sets Fire to WTC Elevator
FOXNews - 9 hours ago
NEW YORK — An intoxicated commodities broker was arrested after he 
allegedly tried to set fire to a freight elevator after trapping 
himself in it. ... 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482724,00.html 
 
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This week I'll see you in Kent, WA. 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_IntFA_Kent_Jan-2009.pdf 
  
Have fun! 
 
- Mike 
mailto:mike@etnews.org 
 
19 days until "Pitchers and Catchers Report!" 
 
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QUESTION 
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Hi Mike, 
 
I have a question for you regarding the correct dispatching action 
that should be used for CO Detectors. We normally treat them just like 
any other initiating device, but when we checked with our central 
station, Emergency24, they said it's split 50-50 among their dealers. 
About half of the dealers apparently treat CO Detectors just like 
smoke detectors, and the other half treat them as a supervisory 
condition. 
 
What thoughts do you have on this subject? And I understand your 
response will be just your opinion and not legally binding yada-yada. 
 
Thanks and have a good new year. 
 
Regards, 
 
Jeff Gilbertson, SET 
VP Technology 
The Gilbertson Group 
 
ANSWER 
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Aloha Jeff, 
 
It is my understanding that the current breed of CO detectors can't be 
considered automatic fire detectors because by the time they indicate 
an alarm condition the occupants have been exposed to elevated levels 
of CO for hours.  Because they are not early warning detectors, I 
consider them to be supervisory-signal initiating devices.  NFPA 720 
sees it that way as well: 
 
NFPA 720-2005 Standard for the Installation of Carbon Monoxide (CO) 
Warning Equipment in Dwelling Units 
 
5.3.8 Interconnection to Fire Alarm or Combination Control Units. 
 
5.3.8.1 Where carbon monoxide alarms or detectors are interconnected 
to fire alarm or combination control units, connections shall be via 
supervisory circuits only. 
 
5.3.8.2 Operation of carbon monoxide alarms or detectors shall not 
cause fire alarm or combination control units to activate either 
protected premises or supervising station fire alarm signals. 
 
5.3.8.3 Where carbon monoxide warning equipment is connected to a 
protected premises fire alarm system, receipt of signals shall 
initiate the signal required by 5.3.2 and 5.3.3. 
 
5.3.9 Supervising Station Fire Alarm Systems. 
 
5.3.9.1 Supervising station systems requiring transmission of signals 
to continually staffed locations providing supervising station 
services (e.g., central station service, proprietary stations, or 
remote stations) shall also comply with the applicable requirements of 
Chapter 8 of NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm Code. 
 
5.3.9.2 Where carbon monoxide warning equipment is connected to 
supervising station fire alarm systems, receipt of alarm signals shall 
be distinctively indicated as "supervisory signal carbon monoxide" or 
other non-fire alarm signal designation acceptable to the AHJ. 
 
5.3.9.3 Signals received by the supervising station shall be processed 
by the supervising station personnel in accordance with the following 
requirements: 
(1) The personnel shall retransmit the supervisory signal to the public 
fire service communications center. 
(2) The personnel shall notify the subscriber by the quickest 
available method. 
(3) When the signal results from a pre-arranged test, the actions 
required by 5.3.9.3(1) and 5.3.9.3(2) shall not be required. 
 
Thank you for the great question. 

Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! 
 
Mike 
 
This response should not be considered a formal interpretation 
but rather the author's opinion. 
 
Send me your questions and comments: mailto:mike@etnews.org 
 
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SEMINAR SCHEDULE
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Contact me regarding seminar sponsorship mailto:mikebaker@afaa.org 
 
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January 27-29, 2009 Kent, WA 
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Fire Alarm System Testing & Inspections 
Intermediate Fire Alarm (NICET I & II)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_IntFA_Kent_Jan-2009.pdf 
 
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February 2-3, 2009 Valdez, AK 
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Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II)  
Sponsored seminar (closed) 
 
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February 3-5, 2009 Newark, NJ 
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Basic Fire Alarm Seminar  
Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II)  
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/BasFA_IntFA_Newark_Feb2009.pdf 
 
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February 9-11, 2009 Minneapolis, MN  
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Basic Fire Alarm  
Advanced Fire Alarm (NICET III & IV)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/BasFA_AdvFA_Minneapolis_Feb2009.pdf 
 
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February 17-19, 2009 Burbank, CA 
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Fire Alarm System Testing & Inspections 
Advanced Fire Alarm (NICET III & IV)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_AdvFA_Burbank_Feb2009.pdf 
 
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February 26-27, 2009 Las Vegas, NV Educode  
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Intermediate Fire Alarm (NICET I & II)
http://www.iccsafe.org/training/EduCode/ 
 
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March 24-26, 2009 Hoffman Estates, IL 
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Fire Alarm System Testing & Inspections 
Advanced Fire Alarm (NICET III & IV)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_AdvFA_Chicago_Mar-2009.pdf 
 
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April 2-3, 2009 Chico, CA 
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Advanced Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET III & IV)  
Sponsored seminar (closed) 
 
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April 7-9, 2009 Conshocken, PA 
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Understanding IBC Fire Alarm Requirements 
Intermediate Fire Alarm (NICET I & II)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/IBC_IntFA_Conshohocken_PA_Apr2009.pdf 
 
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April 28-30, 2009 Newark, NJ 
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Fire Alarm System Testing & Inspections 
Intermediate Fire Alarm (NICET I & II)
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_AdvFA_Newark_Apr2009.pdf 
 
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