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September 14, 2008

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    NEWS AND INFORMATION FOR THE FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERING TEAM      
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 Issue No. 356  ISSN 1554-074X      http://www.etnews.org   9-14-2008  
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Contents 
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- News 
- Journal 
- Employment 
- Seminar Schedule 
- Comments & Acknowledgements 
 
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NEWS 
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FIRE PREVENTION WEEK FACT #1: 
In 2007, there were an estimated 399,000 reported home structure fires 
resulting in 2,865 civilian deaths and 12,500 civilian injuries and 
$6.8 billion in direct damage in the United States. Home fires caused 
84% of civilian deaths and 77% of injuries. 
Source: NFPA®'s Fire Loss in the United States During 2007, report by 
Michael J. Karter 
 
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National Campus Fire Safety Month Launches on Capitol Hill
Firehouse.com (subscription) - USA
Simons, a student at Seton Hall University, was awoken about 4:30 am 
by a fire alarm. They were serious about fire drills. If you ignored 
the alarm, ... 
http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/News/National-Campus-Fire-Safety-
Month-Launches-on-Capitol-Hill-/46$60889 
 
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Breaking Down NIST's Fire Dynamics
Firehouse.com (subscription) - USA
The National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) Fire 
Dynamics for the Fire Service presentation provokes a new era of 
thought in fireground ... 
http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/Firefighter-Safety/Breaking-Down-
NISTs-Fire-Dynamics/10$60941 
 
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Bayonne gets its fire alarm system
The Jersey Journal - NJ.com - Jersey City,NJ,USA
During the last decade of the 19th Century Bayonne got its first fire 
alarm telegraph system for free as part of a compromise that ended a 
civic dispute ... 
http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/
1221287151176630.xml&coll=3 
 
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This week I'll see you in Anchorage. 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/IBC_IntFA_Anchorage_Sep2008.pdf 
 
Have fun! 
 
Mike 
mailto:mike@etnews.org 
 
DL-90,607 AS-14,156 HA-2,602 CO-1,000 F9-650 UA-500 
 
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REVISITING SPRINKLER WATERFLOW MONITORING FROM ET NEWS ISSUE NO. 351 
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QUESTION 
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Fire Sprinkler Monitoring System. 
What is required when an automatic fire alarm system is not required 
but there is a fire sprinkler system?  The sprinkler system is 
required to be supervised and monitored.  Is a smoke detector and 
manual pull station required or just a UL listed fire alarm 
communicator?  Are notification devices required throughout the 
premise?  
 
ANSWER 
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My original answer didn't address the manual box and smoke detector 
requirement.  Because a Sprinkler Waterflow and Supervisory System 
is not a Fire Alarm System, the requirements to provide a manual box 
and a smoke detector (under certain circumstances) does not apply. 
NFPA 72-2007 includes new language to address this: 
 
6.8.5.5* Alarm Signal Initiation - Sprinkler Systems. 
 
A.6.8.5.5  This Code does not specifically require a waterflow alarm-
initiating device to be connected to the building fire alarm system.  
Connection to the building fire alarm system would be determined by 
the requirements established by the authority having jurisdiction.  
See A.1.2.4. 

A.1.2.4  The intent of this paragraph is to make it clear that the 
protection requirements are derived from the applicable building or 
fire code, not from NFPA 72. 
 
6.8.5.5.1  Where required to be electronically monitored,  waterflow 
alarm-initiating devices shall be connected to a dedicated function 
fire alarm control unit designated as Sprinkler Waterflow and 
Supervisory System, and permanently identified on the control unit 
and record drawings. 
Exception: 
Where waterflow alarm-initiating devices are connected to a building 
fire alarm system, a dedicated function fire alarm control unit shall 
not be required. 
 
Does this clear things up or make matters worse?  
 
- Mike 
 
This response should not be considered a formal interpretation but 
rather the author's opinion. 
 
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JOB OPPORTUNITIES
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JOB OPPORTUNITY and SEEKING EMPLOYMENT announcements are provided as a
service.  ET News provides a venue for direct contact between job 
seekers and employers.  ET News is not a placement agency and does not
endorse either job seekers or employers.   
 
Post your announcement at http://www.etnews.org/index.php?s=257 
 
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SEMINAR SCHEDULE
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Contact me to find out how your group can sponsor seminars. 
mailto:mikebaker@afaa.org 
 
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September 16-18, 2008 Anchorage, AK 
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Understanding IBC Fire Alarm Requirements 
Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II) 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/IBC_IntFA_Anchorage_Sep2008.pdf 
 
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September 18, 2008 East Hanover, NJ 
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Fire Alarm System Testing and Inspection 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_AFAA-NJ_Sept2008.pdf 
 
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September 22-25, 2008 Laurel, MD 
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Basic Fire Alarm 
Understanding IBC Fire Alarm Requirements 
Advanced Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET III & IV) 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/BasFA_IBC_AdvFA_Maryland_Sep-2008.pdf 
 
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September 29 and October 1-2, 2008 Louisville, KY  
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Basic Fire Alarm 
Fire Alarm System Testing and Inspection 
Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II) 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/KYAFAA_Training_September_08.pdf 
 
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October 6-10, 2008 Portland, OR   
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Fire Alarm System Testing and Inspection 
Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II) 
Fire Alarm Plan Review Seminar 
Understanding IBC Fire Alarm Requirements 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_IntFA_PR_IBC_Portland_Oct2008.pdf 
 
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October 28-30, 2008 Baton Rouge, LA 
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Fire Alarm System Testing and Inspection 
Intermediate Fire Alarm Seminar (NICET I & II) 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/TI_IntFA_BatonRouge_Oct2008.pdf 
 
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November 4-6, 2008 Los Angeles, CA 
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Basic Fire Alarm Seminar 
Fire Alarm Plan Review 
Understanding Life Safety Code Fire Alarm Requirements 
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/BasFA_PR_101_LosAngeles_Nov2008.pdf 
 
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November 11-13, 2008 Oklahoma City, OK  
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More info to follow ... 
 
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November 20, 2008 East Hanover, NJ 
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Understanding IBC Fire Alarm Requirements  
http://www.afaa.org/pdf/IBC_AFAA-NJ_Nov2008.pdf 
 
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COMMENTS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS 
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ET News is written nearly every week and almost always sent on Sunday. 
 
Doug Hockinson built ETNews.org using PHP/MySQL-> http://www.phpvs.com 
 
Purchase new & used codes & standards on line http://tinyurl.com/36zzk 
 
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